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	<title>Comments on: The Joker was/is right</title>
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		<title>By: ChAoS is FaIr</title>
		<link>http://blakehuggins.com/2008/09/15/the-joker-wasis-right/comment-page-1/#comment-1432</link>
		<dc:creator>ChAoS is FaIr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 08:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found this post immeadiately after watching the movie by typing into google "the joker had it right"... there is so much truth in that movie, and in most everything that happens in front of our faces everyday... but we will not see it in time to prevent this chaos that will consume all soon enough... but its all a part of the plan.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this post immeadiately after watching the movie by typing into google &#8220;the joker had it right&#8221;&#8230; there is so much truth in that movie, and in most everything that happens in front of our faces everyday&#8230; but we will not see it in time to prevent this chaos that will consume all soon enough&#8230; but its all a part of the plan&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Sophie</title>
		<link>http://blakehuggins.com/2008/09/15/the-joker-wasis-right/comment-page-1/#comment-1430</link>
		<dc:creator>Sophie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 01:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And now they (Washington) are presenting us with another "plan".  This time the fear that is being instilled is about a financial armageddon.  Intuitively, we know the plan is insane, but since it's the only one that is being articulated, it will most likely be accepted.   It's so true....all part of the plan.  And that is how empires fall, lives go to ruin, and generations are saddled with the fallout.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And now they (Washington) are presenting us with another &#8220;plan&#8221;.  This time the fear that is being instilled is about a financial armageddon.  Intuitively, we know the plan is insane, but since it&#8217;s the only one that is being articulated, it will most likely be accepted.   It&#8217;s so true&#8230;.all part of the plan.  And that is how empires fall, lives go to ruin, and generations are saddled with the fallout.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M.</title>
		<link>http://blakehuggins.com/2008/09/15/the-joker-wasis-right/comment-page-1/#comment-1356</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sometimes I'm better at posing questions than I am at providing answers.  I guess that comes from being an editor.  For what it's worth, these are my thoughts from the last few days.
I feel that I'm unable to have a fully fleshed out concept of Jesus as Christ, so I'm going to attempt to borrow yours.  It's one that I'm fond of and is the most relevant to this discourse.

I do see the good in have an established order.  Any establishment is going to be good for somebody, and a very good establishment is probably going to be very good for a lot of people.  Coupled with that, though, must be the idea that there is no such thing as a free lunch.  In simplified form, if my life is better for having more resources, I must be aware that somewhere there are now fewer resources for other people.  That is a pretty basic concept, and it would be condescending to belabor the point.

The gist of my feeling is that no established order is going to be perfect, and that's why I think the tension between what we want and what we can achieve is so important.  That tension is at least part of what drives the evolution of social structures.  This driven change is good, in my opinion, because it helps to avoid that unchecked consolidation of power that you refer to.

In the interest of saving Jesus from supervillain status, I think there are probably many ways of going about the kind of revolt we're talking about.  Jesus seems to have inspired more people than he might have if he had resorted to The Joker's methods.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes I&#8217;m better at posing questions than I am at providing answers.  I guess that comes from being an editor.  For what it&#8217;s worth, these are my thoughts from the last few days.<br />
I feel that I&#8217;m unable to have a fully fleshed out concept of Jesus as Christ, so I&#8217;m going to attempt to borrow yours.  It&#8217;s one that I&#8217;m fond of and is the most relevant to this discourse.</p>
<p>I do see the good in have an established order.  Any establishment is going to be good for somebody, and a very good establishment is probably going to be very good for a lot of people.  Coupled with that, though, must be the idea that there is no such thing as a free lunch.  In simplified form, if my life is better for having more resources, I must be aware that somewhere there are now fewer resources for other people.  That is a pretty basic concept, and it would be condescending to belabor the point.</p>
<p>The gist of my feeling is that no established order is going to be perfect, and that&#8217;s why I think the tension between what we want and what we can achieve is so important.  That tension is at least part of what drives the evolution of social structures.  This driven change is good, in my opinion, because it helps to avoid that unchecked consolidation of power that you refer to.</p>
<p>In the interest of saving Jesus from supervillain status, I think there are probably many ways of going about the kind of revolt we&#8217;re talking about.  Jesus seems to have inspired more people than he might have if he had resorted to The Joker&#8217;s methods.</p>
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		<title>By: blake</title>
		<link>http://blakehuggins.com/2008/09/15/the-joker-wasis-right/comment-page-1/#comment-1349</link>
		<dc:creator>blake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 06:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>andrew - i agree.  i haven't watching many substantive films as of late, but i think that scene of dialogue was some of the best i've seen in a long time.

those are good questions.  i haven't had a lot of time to flesh out my ideas lately and to that end i'm not sure i could even offer acceptable answers even if i had the time.

but i will say this: generally speaking i am becoming more and more convinced that any sort of order -- and i use the word very loosely as i'm somewhat uncomfortable with it -- that is worth being pursued or termed as being normative in the sense that it perpetuates the least amount of oppression, domination, etc. possible, must be situated as local and contextual as feasibly possible.  

as such, i tend to agree with lyotard and other postmoderns and poststructuralists in that i am suspicious and altogether antagonistic toward the hegemony of the metanarrative and the coercive, unilateral, and unregulated use of power by the establishment for the sake of artificial "order."  

there is a certain tension in there somewhere.  and i'm not sure what to do with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>andrew - i agree.  i haven&#8217;t watching many substantive films as of late, but i think that scene of dialogue was some of the best i&#8217;ve seen in a long time.</p>
<p>those are good questions.  i haven&#8217;t had a lot of time to flesh out my ideas lately and to that end i&#8217;m not sure i could even offer acceptable answers even if i had the time.</p>
<p>but i will say this: generally speaking i am becoming more and more convinced that any sort of order &#8212; and i use the word very loosely as i&#8217;m somewhat uncomfortable with it &#8212; that is worth being pursued or termed as being normative in the sense that it perpetuates the least amount of oppression, domination, etc. possible, must be situated as local and contextual as feasibly possible.  </p>
<p>as such, i tend to agree with lyotard and other postmoderns and poststructuralists in that i am suspicious and altogether antagonistic toward the hegemony of the metanarrative and the coercive, unilateral, and unregulated use of power by the establishment for the sake of artificial &#8220;order.&#8221;  </p>
<p>there is a certain tension in there somewhere.  and i&#8217;m not sure what to do with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M.</title>
		<link>http://blakehuggins.com/2008/09/15/the-joker-wasis-right/comment-page-1/#comment-1322</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 17:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love that speech in the movie because it very clearly (and cleverly) asks, "I plan to kill one, you plan to kill thousands, and I'M the crazy one?!"

The whole thing makes me think of Lyotard's "incredulity toward metanarratives."  Is there/can there be an order (economic, social, or whatever you prefer) that does not include the obedience of those who observe it?  Perhaps more importantly, is there/can there be an order in which a Joker/Christ will feel at home?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love that speech in the movie because it very clearly (and cleverly) asks, &#8220;I plan to kill one, you plan to kill thousands, and I&#8217;M the crazy one?!&#8221;</p>
<p>The whole thing makes me think of Lyotard&#8217;s &#8220;incredulity toward metanarratives.&#8221;  Is there/can there be an order (economic, social, or whatever you prefer) that does not include the obedience of those who observe it?  Perhaps more importantly, is there/can there be an order in which a Joker/Christ will feel at home?</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://blakehuggins.com/2008/09/15/the-joker-wasis-right/comment-page-1/#comment-1313</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I found your blog on this new directory of WordPress Blogs at blackhatbootcamp.com/listofwordpressblogs.  I dont know how your blog came up, must have been a typo, i duno.  Anyways, I just clicked it and here I am.  Your blog looks good.  Have a nice day.  James.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I found your blog on this new directory of WordPress Blogs at blackhatbootcamp.com/listofwordpressblogs.  I dont know how your blog came up, must have been a typo, i duno.  Anyways, I just clicked it and here I am.  Your blog looks good.  Have a nice day.  James.</p>
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		<title>By: Mak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven't seen the movie yet but that's very profound and I would say, ultimately, very true...in an existential sense anyway. Human order really is an illusion - not that the illusion is always bad/wrong mind you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t seen the movie yet but that&#8217;s very profound and I would say, ultimately, very true&#8230;in an existential sense anyway. Human order really is an illusion - not that the illusion is always bad/wrong mind you.</p>
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