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Theology is not about what exists: a Deleuzian meditation

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I posted a comment yesterday on Callid Keefe-Perry’s latest vlog over at The Image of Fish that I think bears further reflection.  It relates to some of my latest thinking on some of the reading I’ve been doing in preparation for my thesis next year.  It’s a nascent idea and not at all developed, but I thought I would float it and see what sort of feedback it might get.

Callid is commenting in large part on some of the responses to Jason Derr’s excellent piece over at HuffPo Religion on the role of poetry in the religious imagination.  The aim of Derr’s article is to argue that theology ought not be couched primarily as a scientific enterprise (in the modern sense) mainly interested in cold hard facts and what can clearly be empirically observed in the world.  Instead, theology after modernity might look more like a mythopoetic enterprise, a discourse more akin to work of the poet in her exploration of the contours of human experience — our passions and desires — than the misguided quest for objectivity of epistemological certainty.  As Derr writes, “Poetry and metaphor are important as ways of doing theology. In a world so divided by absolute claims, using metaphor and poetry allows us to have room for flex.”  He even picks up on a metaphor I used in my last post in describing theology as a type of seeing-as which is not so much concerned about complete descriptions of reality as it is communicating reality through imagery and symbol, of exploring what is going on in reality phenomenologically.  For Derr (and others) this is the work of theopoetics.

Like I mentioned, Callid’s post is primarily a thoughtful response to some of the more negative, one might even say uncharitable, feedback Derr’s piece has received.  This seems to be part of a larger trend I’ve notice on some more popular sites like HuffPo that now have an active religion section.  I don’t have the time or the desire to wade through all the comments that posts like this illicit (frankly, most of them aren’t worth it), but I do try to gauge the overall response from time to time.  And usually the response tends to sway in favor of a sort of antagonistic, positivistic outlook toward religion, the likes of which the so-called “new” atheists are now infamous for advancing.

One of the points Callid takes up in the video is the age-old modern criticism that, in the final instance, religion isn’t really about reality it all, that ultimately the existence of a deity cannot be proved, that when you get right down to it “there is nothing there there.” One commenter on Derr’s piece cites a Thomas Paine quote which I think serves as a good, succint summation of this sort of criticism.  See the quote after the jump.

The study of theology, as it stands in Christian churches, is the study of nothing; it is founded on nothing; it rests on nothing; it proceeds by no authorities; it has no data; it can demonstrate nothing and admits of no conclusion.

A classic sort of Enlightment, “religion within the limits of reason alone” (or not at all!) type of critique which eschews any scent of ambiguity and is only satisfied by an airtight discourse with clear parameters and demarcated boundaries. Callid, in his rejoinder, notes the importance and weight of this criticism for theologians and religious persons vis-a-vis the role of doubt in the life of faith and then goes to more or less reject, as does Derr, the supposition that religion, like science, is about quantifying reality in an objective manner by taking stocking of what is empirically observable.  His main and most persuasive point is to note that the full breadth of human experience is not reducible to an empirical, scientific standard though it does not preclude it.  Phenomenologically, religion — like philosophy one might argue — functions as a node on the spectrum of human understanding which, to go back to my previous post again, operates on the basis of a different type of faith or desire.

I share these points with Callid, but I want to offer a different, perhaps more oblique criticism to Derr’s cultured despisers of religion.  My contention is that these claims of religion being a discourse about something which does not exist, rather than being flat out wrong, do not go far enough.  To paraphrase Zizek’s statement in In Defense of Lost Causes apropos to Heidegger’s Nazism, they are right steps in the wrong direction.  Theology, or so I would want to argue, is always first phenomenology.  It is a discourse of events, concerned not with what is but with what may be, with what is inside what is happening as Deleuze puts it. For it is only by adopting such a posture that we can hope to “not be unworthy of what happens to us.”1

To continue with Deleuze, there is a provocative and intriguing passage in The Logic of Sense which makes possible what I am calling theology as the study of inexistence.

It is our epoch which has discovered theology. One no longer needs to believe in God. We seek rather the “structure,” that is, the form which may be filled with beliefs, but the structure has no need to be filled in order to be called “theological.” Theology is now the science of nonexisting entities, the manner in which these entities —divine or anti-divine, Christ or Antichrist—animate language make for it this glorious body which is divided into disjunctions.2

There many ways to take such a rich passage.  For these purposes, though, I would want to put a highly eschatological gloss on Deleuze’s claims that “theology is now the science of nonexisting entities,” radicalizing Moltmann’s insistence that eschatology must be the heart and soul of theology from beginning to end.  A theology of the event, then, is not so much about what is but what is yet to come in the future.  It is a discourse of possibility, a poetics of the (im)possible, one might say, which locates itself in the interstitial space of the Pauline already-not yet.

I am reticent, pace Deleuze, to call this a theology — or theopoetics — of nonexistence. Rather, I would want to call such an understanding a theology of inexistence as it is not primarily about nothingness per se but of the structure of the event, of the work of calling these “nonexisting entities” into being at the level of the religious imagination.  As I put it in my original comment on Callid’s post:

Theology is about the exigency of calling [these] things into existence, of not being satisfied with what “merely exists,” and allowing the possibility of those things to animate our language and our imagination such that we are open to the incoming event of the future, of the possibility that lies within but is still beyond what exists, demanding its irruption.  It seems to me that if theology is only about what exists, only about the boring, predictable state of things that are immediately knowable, then it is a disappointingly reductionistic — I daresay nihilistic — discourse that can only ever offer justification for the way things are rather than casting a vision of hope.

In an earlier post, I made the claim, vis-a-vis Catherine Keller, that the task of the theologian in a post-Enlightenment context is to take responsibility for what it is that we call “God.”  To get back to Derr’s original ideas, what I am calling a theology of inexistence involves the work eschatological work, through poetic metaphor and symbol, of heeding the injunction of the divine event and calling into existence that which is thought to be impossible and dead.  It is the process of explicating and demarcating that which we call God at the level of the religious imaginary such that newness becomes a palpable possibility.

In one of his fairly recent works, Moltmann makes the fascinating claim that “Christian eschatology must separate itself from the messianisms of the modern world, and out of this world’s ruins must rescue the categories of redemption.”3  It seems to me that this must first take place at the level of the imagination or else we will continue with the paralyzing inability to conceive of something other than what is.4  A theology (or better a theopoetics) of inexistence which is first and finally shot through with a decidedly eschatological —  and thus political — edge can, I think, address that problem.  For unless our language is ruptured and our normal categories for thinking irrupted we will continue theologizing about what is rather than what may be, on the evental horizon.

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  1. Deleuze, The Logic of Sense, (Continuum), 169. []
  2. Deleuze, 322 []
  3. Jürgen Moltmann, God For a Secular Society: The Public Relevance of Theology, trans. Margaret Kohl (Minneapolis, Minnesota: Fortress Press, 1999), 220. []
  4. As far as this goes, I find it interesting that some of these new atheists who vehemently reject this kind of thinking are also some of our best apologists for the political status quo and right-wing militarism (not to mention Islamophobia).  Christopher Hitchens and Sam Harris are two good examples. []
  • http://homebrewedchristianity.com tripp

    you are officially declared a 'hyper-theist'

    if you want to connect this Deleuze bit with some sweet hermenutical theology you need to get some Jungel in the house. If you got none I can hook you up. Hermenutical futurity of God. It will blow your mind, add some more jesus and trinity, and make you want to dance.

    rock on

  • http://jridenour.wordpress.com/ JRidenour

    OK, let me just first say off the bat that I'm glad you're reading Deleuze. Difference and Repetition is perhaps the most profound philosophical work of the last fifty years. I like what you're trying to do with the Deleuze quote about theology as nonexisting entities, but I have two comments.

    First, it must be acknowledged that this idea of structure or place is intimately connected to the death of God. Deleuze fully recognized the importance of God's death, but he was worried that humanism and many other systems simply filled up the structure with man. Here we might begin to come to terms with what Foucault means when he makes his enigmatic comments on the death of man. So, the real challenge is the complete dissolution of that place and a welcoming of a new philosophy utterly divested of transcendence where everything's mapped on the plan of immanence (Altizer make a similar move with his kenotic Godhead). Can we think of a theology that wholly immanent, and is this immanent theology reconcilable with an eschatological orientation?

    Two, I worry about this deconstructive post-metaphysical theology. I don't mean to police borders here, but I find that the type of theology of an event that you're advancing seems somewhat unrelated to Christianity. It's a different type of theology, but Christianity is unique insofar as everything has already occurred decisively in Christ 2000 years ago. Sure, there's the anticipation of the Kingdom and of the parousia, but there is a sense in which things are completed already. I know you made an attempt to reconcile the already with the not-yet in Paul, but it seems important to recognize the apocalyptic nature of his call. It wasn't simply this open eschatology of what is to come, but rather an imminent apocalypse that he urgently preached.

    Christian theology is about knowing God qua Christ. It seems to me that this eschatological orientation downplays the abundant grace and peace offered to the Christian in the here and now that can only be experienced by looking back to Calvary and accepting that gift of atonement.

    I guess I'm basically asking where is Christ in all of this? I don't mean to play the whole natural/revealed dichotomy, but it does raise the question what exactly is the epistemological foundation of the theology of the event? It just seems to me that there has to be a decided recognition of what happened in the past and a hope for the future, but a hope for the future only founded on a peace from what has already decisively happened in God's revelation through Christ.

  • http://blakehuggins.com Blake Huggins

    Sweet. I haven't read much Jungel, I think maybe a few pieces on Barth. And it is a chore for me to get excited about stuff on Barth. But I don't have any, so if you got the hook ups that would be awesome.

    The funny thing about all the 'hyper-' stuff is that I just listened to your HBC interview with Andrew Root the other day and then proceeded to not make that connection in this post!

  • http://blakehuggins.com Blake Huggins

    Wow, these are some great comments. Thanks. I'm going to set aside some time to give them the attention they deserve and hopefully I can churn out a response soon. For now I will just say that your first comment is very much on my mind, it has been for a while actually and it may end up being a major issue I take up in my thesis. I'm just not sure from which angle. As to the second comment, my initial reaction is that this may end up coming down me being more Tillichian and you more Barthian. I, like you, don't want to perpetuate a reductionistic dichotomy like that but I think those undertones are at work. Either way, though, Christology was noticeably absent in this post. I hope to address that.

    And Deleuze. I am finding myself enthralled with him and I haven't even read all that much, to be honest. Difference and Repetition is certainly making its way to the top of my list, along with some others. I'm still working through The Logic of Sense right now.

  • http://jridenour.wordpress.com/ Jeremy

    I haven't read many of Deleuze's collaborative work with Guatarri (although I would suggest What is Philosophy which is great), but I intend too soon. I'd also suggest his book on Nietzsche and his essay Pure Immanence.

    Might I also suggest that you check out Daniel Barber's work (http://itself.wordpress.com/cvs/daniel-coluccie…). He contributes over at AUFS and has published some great works on immanence (influenced by Deleuze) and theology especially in the theology of Yoder.

    I look forward to reading your further comments, and I must admit those are criticisms I have of Caputo's work in general. You might be right about the Barth/Tillich divide, but I've never liked Tillich that much. I'm gonna read his ST soon, but I'm doubtful that I'll find it too interesting.

  • http://blakehuggins.com Blake Huggins

    I recently downloaded a few of Barber's essays on immanence but I've yet to read them. I'm also keen to check out The New Yoder of which he is a contributor. I've never been much of a fan of the whole Hauerwas/Yoder stream, but the idea of putting Deleuze and others into the mix sounds interesting.

    I've read a few selections from A Thousand Plateaus with Guatarri but not enough to have any thoughts on it. Hopefully I can finish it and Anti-Oedipus soon.

    We may actually be getting somewhere with Barth/Tillich, as I've never really found the former all that helpful while I feel indebted to the latter as the headwaters or originary impetus for my own theology (though I do have noticeable differences with him). Even though I would call myself a Caputoian(?) in some sense I think those are important criticisms of his work. (As a side-note, I think that biographically a lot of this may have to do with my distancing myself from the hyper-confessional religious environment in which I was raised.)

  • http://jridenour.wordpress.com/ Jeremy

    His essays are great, especially his one on Yoder and the Particularity of the Kingdom.

    I think I appreciate Tillich only insofar as he is the grandfather of radical theology. He opened up radical theological thinking which influenced later theologians like Altizer, Winquist, Crockett, etc. But the content of his acutal theology has never really intrigued me. I also initially didn't see what big deal was about Barth until I began making headways into his Church Dogmatics. It really is that impressive. I certianly have my diagreements, but his theology is just so damn thorough and rigorous. Also, I think my love for Altizer is what has really increased my respect for Barth and his radical revisions of the doctrine of election, etc.

    I understand your aversion to strong ecclesial institutions. I don't go to church either, and I find that many of recent theologians who fetishize the church (Hauerwas et al.) are way off base, which is why I think the dissolution of the church/world dicothomy as advanced by liberation theologians is a really helpful way to get around this temptation.

  • http://theimageoffish.com/ Callid Keefe-Perry

    Some related thoughts on this matter are now here: http://theimageoffish.com/2010/07/15/the-imposs…

  • http://twitter.com/atravelersnote george elerick

    blake! i really like what you're saying. i am friends with jason. stumbled on your site. would love to continue in dialogue. i think the power of metaphor or myth as truth has much to instruct us in the way of transformative living. i am definitely behind on this. i am also a big fan of caputo who says “i don't believe in god, but rather the god beyond god” – i see theopoetics as this ambulance that is trying to save the god beyond god, albeit imperfectly, but so imperfectly well…thanks for the thought, lets keep in touch bro!

  • http://blakehuggins.com Blake Huggins

    Okay, I will address these in order. I still don't feel like I did them justice but I didn't it to sit any longer.

    1.) I certainly don't want to sweep the gravity of the death of God (historically, culturally, metaphysically, etc.) under the rug. I accept it has axiomatic, for the most part. So in the post what I am calling a theology of inexistence or a theology of the hyperreal is also a way of returning to God after God, of theologizing after the death of (a certain) God, to borrow Caputo and Vattimo's title. Now, where things get really interesting is once we admit to this death and move past the eulogizing. Your question, “Can we think of a theology that wholly immanent, and is this immanent theology reconcilable with an eschatological orientation?” strikes to the root of this, I think. I wonder, thought, if theology can pack an eschatological punch if it is in fact “utterly divested of transcendence.” It seems to me that transcendence, in some sense, constitutes the eschatological horizon. Now, I don't think it is as simply as retreating back into old wineskins (Radox comes to mind). I would be interested in reifying transcendence after the death of God such that it is compatible with the plane of immanence that Deleuze and others have mapped out. I wonder if one way of doing this would be to link up transcendence with the apocalyptic, to have an apocalyptic theology of the event. This is one of the ideas I may be working through next year in my thesis. We'll see.

    2.) Like I've already mentioned, I think the Christological question is a fair criticism of Caputo's deconstructive theology. And I agree with you here even if I find Caputo more congenial than you do. Callid has also written a new post/vlog which addresses this point as well. For his part, Caputo has a strong theology of the Cross but I wonder if his theology of the event does give due credence to the singularity of the Christ event, indeed one could even say that he trivializes it in some sense. The best he can do, it seems, is to draw on the trope of the messianic from Blanchot and Derrida and say that the advent of any messiah is predicated on some sort of second coming. I like this, to be sure, but I don't think it necessarily gets him off the hook. I don't want to give ground on the eschatological and hyperreal orientation, but I wonder if there is a way to get at it which upholds the singularity of the Christ Event. As far as I know there is no one dealing with the question in that manner, except maybe the Radox-ers, but I'm not too interested in that approach. I wonder if a pneumatologically situated Christology (Catherine Keller comes to mind) might help with this problem. I've always found it interesting that Caputo is reticent to speak of the Spirit in any substantial sense. Might it be that the Spirit is that which animates all events, perhaps most saliently the Christ Event? I can't go into right now, but I also think that this problematic and tension cannot be resolved without an adequate discussion of time as well. Indeed that may strike to the heart.

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  • http://jridenour.wordpress.com/ Jeremy

    1) Eh, I've read Caputo and Vattimo's book, and I remain unconvinced by a God after God. Mark C Taylor and Altizer have done much to advance a Hegelian death-of-God theology, and I don't think Taylor and Altizer are simply addressing some sort of metaphysical God (of course Caputo dislikes this Hegelian reading because of his distaste for dialectic, which also motivated his turn to Deleuze who offers a damning critique of dialectics in his book on Nietzsche). That seems to be the problem with Caputo and Vattimo's approach. Both think modernity simply witnesses the death of a metaphysical God, which to me does not address the real Christological (ultimately Barthian) center of Altizer's theology (side note, I could simply substitute Zizek here for Altizer, but I believe Altizer deserves the credit here as 2009 AAR made quite clearly). In my opinion, Vattimo and Caputo are trying to avoid the supercessionist criticism often attributed to death-of-God theology. But, as I've addressed elsewhere I wonder if either can avoid those criticisms: http://tinyurl.com/32x69th. For one, Vattimo has this reading of a nihilism that seems to parallel the age of the spirit advanced by Joachim of Fiore. Ultimately, the age of the spirit (his version of Christianity) surpasses the age of the Father (a similar comment is made by Freud in Moses and Monotheism when he discusses the death of God: http://tinyurl.com/2uv2b2k). Caputo's problem sees to me that he wants to have his cake and eat it too. Namely, he wants to avoid supersessionism (consequently he refuses to emphasize the centrality of Christology or the cross), but he wants to advance a weak theology that seems too dependent on the Greek Bible. Can he really reconcile YHWH's interactions with the Hebrews and a theology of weakness?

    You say: I would be interested in reifying transcendence after the death of God such that it is compatible with the plane of immanence that Deleuze and others have mapped out.

    I know this is an intense conversation, but I don't know how one could do this. In fact, Deleuze's entire project seems to be against any sort of recovering of transcendence, and I think others like the speculative realists have taken this as a banner to argue for a non-anthropocentric philosophy.

    It seems difficult. I also remain skeptical that one can have a theology divested of transcendence that is simultaneously apocalyptic in orientation. Ultimately, I think Caputo following Derrida could never advocate an apocalyptic theology or at least it would have to be an apocalypse with/out apocalypse. This might also explain why he focuses on a view of Jesus borrowed from Crossan's work that almost completely neglects the apocalyptic undertones of Jesus' ministry.

    2) I've already addressed this above somewhat. I think Caputo would refuse to ever emphasize the singularity of the Christ event insofar as it leads to exclusivism. Also, his reading of the atonement in the WoG seems to me to be entirely Abelarian, which makes me wonder just how different is his theology of the event from liberal Protestantism. I still remain struck by Kotsko's criticism of the WoG here: http://tinyurl.com/mbw9bx, which led to a fertile discussion as well.

    Perhaps, one could make the pneumatological move. I dunno. The Holy Spirit is never something I've been comfortable dealing with, although I could see how one could get some mileage out of process theology.

    I realize we're perhaps reaching an impasse, but I appreciate you engaging me in this conversation. Also, I apologize for the linkage to my blog, but I've been addressing these issues over the last year or so.

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  • http://www.wearegodshands.org revjack

    If you havn't you need to read Virtual Faith: The Irreverent Spiritual Quest of Generation X
    http://www.amazon.com/Virtual-Faith-Irreverent-…

    he goes into this… IRREVerent as REVerent … Watch out you'll want a tattoo after reading….

  • http://www.angelguidedjourneys.com/ Meditation Retreats

    I think the main and most persuasive point is to note that the full breadth of human experience is not reducible to an empirical, scientific standard though it does not preclude it.

  • Anewport1

    Blake:
    When you finish your thesis you’ll need to learn to speak to the common man again. You make my head hurt as much as the Neihburs.
    Your old friend,
    Alan Newport

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