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Gays don’t cause tornadoes
Today was supposed to be for another Diana Butler Bass post.
But then the gays had to go and cause a tornado in Minnesota.
Like a lot of people yesterday I read John Piper’s outrageous post claiming that God caused a tornado in Minneapolis to send a message to the ELCA: God doesn’t like gays and doesn’t want them in His (yes, His) church. And like a lot of people I was angered.
I left this comment on Piper’s post:
It is deeply disappointing to see such a prominent Christian leader yet again contributing to the narrative of fear. You’re peddling a poisonous and toxic theology Mr. Piper. And you join the likes of Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson in doing so. Yours is a Christianity that betrays the heart of the gospel. I highly doubt you will, but I pray that you retract your words.
I was in a hurry so here’s a few more thoughts. (My hope is that more people (people who, unlike me, have voice and influence) will call Piper out on this because the last thing we need is another excuse for people to write off Christians has gay-bashing, fanatical, wing nuts.)
The theology is ridiculous. I’m hesitant to even call this theology because Piper’s cutting and pasting of scripture tells me that he is more interested in justifying his own ideology with religious authority than he is in serious reflection.1 It is very destructive and obviously raises some disturbing issues when it comes to theodicy and the nature of God. The burden of proof is on Piper to explain every other natural disaster. Who is being punished in all the other tornadoes, earthquakes, tsunamis, and hurricanes? And what kind of God dishes out punishment of that magnitude? What of grace? If God is in the business of unleashing holy hell on those God pleases then why does God only seems to care about who is having consensual sex with whom and who is marrying whom? Aren’t there other issues that might seem at least a bit more pressing, like say, war or starvation or economic exploitation or disease? If this is God’s way of dealing with things the why hasn’t the United States been wiped off the map for failing to care for its own as the wealthiest nation in the world or for starting bogus wars abroad in order to secure its “interests?” What kind of hierarchy of sins is this that sex is at the top and other problems that directly affect persons livelihood don’t even seem to register? Why doesn’t God give a damn about those?
When you push the thought to its inevitable conclusion, Piper’s God begins to look more in more like the mean kid killing insects with a magnifying glass. God is a sadist who enjoys inflicting cosmic pain on others. If that is true then I have no interest in God. And if religion consists of me running scared for the rest of my life hoping that God isn’t out to get me then I’m out on that too.
Christianity is not a religion of fear. From beginning to end, it’s narrative is one full of hope for the redemption and restoration of all things. Piper, in his post, is more interested in a narrative of fear that dehumanizes the other, casting God as a cosmic antagonist, the ultimate mob boss who will kill you on a whim if you look at him the wrong way. This is not the gospel, indeed it betrays the very heart of the gospel by opting for fear and hate instead of hope and love. “Perfect love casts out fear.” Jesus modeled that perfect love and brought the narrative of hope to its apex. He had a ton of opportunities to go postal on someone who didn’t get it or deserved to be punished, but he didn’t. In fact, in the third act of the story Jesus shows us just how absurd the whole system of punishment and fear really is. Is that not the clearest and most unambiguous embodiment of the very nature of God?
God does not create tornadoes to “send messages.”
God sent the best message God could 2000 years ago and the message is this: love, not hate wins; hope, not fear, has the final say.
You, John Piper, are on the wrong side of history. Homosexuals pose no threat to the church nor does God hate, despise, or want to punish them. We should be welcoming them with open arms to join us in participating in the restoration and renewal of all things. Justice demands it.
- To be sure, we’re all guilty of this to some extent, but there are good interpretations and bad interpretations. [↩]
Selective literalism and the homosexuality debate
Tony Jones hits the nail on the head in this video.
If you follow his blog then you’re aware that Tony has been blogging about homosexuality lately and called for an open and honest discussion without reference to the six clobber verses that are all too often taken out of context.
The problem, of course, isn’t that Tony wants to abandon scripture and rigorous exegesis as he and others are accused of suggesting. The problem is that too many of us are limiting our hermeneutic to a handful of verses, the immediate context of which is either replete with other off the wall stipulations that we have long since abandoned, as in the Hebrew bible, or uses vocabulary which is ambiguous at best and more than likely refers to sexual behavior that is hardly analogous to those in long-term monogamous homosexual relationships in today’s context, as in the case of Paul’s letters. The problem is that we are guilty of a dangerous selective literalism that not only creates a highly myopic and repressive ‘canon-within-the-canon,’ (we are all guilty of our varying emphases) but that it blatantly ignores, as Tony points out, the overall trajectory of scripture — a trajectory of liberation, redemption, and restoration in which God’s interaction within humankind and all of creation is steeped with grace tempered with justice.
There is a meaningful, constructive debate to be had here. But until we find a way to mend this gap it seems that communication is at a standstill. We’ll just keep going around in circles rehashing the same old points and probably yelling louder and getting more emotional in the process. Most of the comments on Tony’s blog are a case point.
So, as far as I can tell (and I’ve read most of the comments) Tony’s question is still an open and unanswered one:
If you are one who thinks that homosexual sex is sinful, can you please explain to me WHY a gay or lesbian person who is in a long-term, monogamous relationship would not be able to wholeheartedly follow Christ?
My only stipulation is this: You may not quote one of the six verses in scripture that mentions homosexuality. Instead, you must use theological and/or philosophical arguments to attempt to convince me that when you have genital contact with someone of your own gender, it somehow inhibits your relationship with Christ.
It’s only a matter of time
How will support for same-sex marriage change over time? Significantly. The generation gap is huge right now. Some gurus at Colombia University have broken down the statistics by age and state. Money quote: “If policy were set by state-by-state majorities of those 65 or older, none would allow same-sex marriage. If policy were set by those under 30, only 12 states would not allow-same-sex marriage.”
25 Years Ago Today. . .
. . .the magic began.
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Best Mac v. PC Video…Ever
I love it.
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John Dominic Crossan on Same-Sex Marriage
[L]et us debate about sex and marriage rather than war and violence. Let us concentrate on the bedroom rather than the war room. Let us liberals get trapped — as always — on the right side of the wrong question. I write this in protest against that deviation from what fundamentally concerns the Bible, the biblical God, and Jesus, namely, that escalatory violence that by now threatens our world with destruction.
I think he does have a point. But — I can see this line of thought leading us to ignore the problem altogether. And we don’t need that. We have enough religious people using the bible and religion in general as a weapon to deny persons their civil rights; we need more religious people actively challenging that position. And yes, maybe even more religious people to say enough with the bible for a while.
To be fair, I don’t think that is what Crossan is suggesting. He is simply trying to demonstrate how absurd it is that we are even having the argument over same-sex marriage and gay rights at all. And like I said, that is a valid observation. But I think we have to be careful that we don’t ignore those that are being marginalized in the meantime by sweeping the problem under the rug. It should be faced head on. Those that use religion as a wedge to separate “us” from “them” aren’t afraid to do that. It’s time that those of us who believe in the “we,” of which all the great religions of the world bear witness, saddle up as well.
What do you think?
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Prop 8: the musical
This too shall pass: thoughts on same-sex marriage and Prop 8
“How long? Not long! Because no lie can live forever.”
– Martin Luther King Jr.
I’ve posted on homosexuality before, but I think some of that sentiment bears repeating.
I am a white, married, heterosexual male who attended one private institution for undergraduate work and is now attending another private institution for graduate school. I was born into and continue to occupy a position of overwhelming privilege. Simply the mere fact that I have both the time and the money to “blog” rests the case.
I don’t have the slightest idea what it feels like to be oppressed, subjugated, or marginalized. I don’t know what it feels like to have fundamental rights stripped from me nor do I know the feeling of being told I cannot marry my partner.
That being noted, I feel that the least I can do is speak the truth as I see it and to stand in solidarity with those who struggle. For me, silence is simply a ghastly affirmation of the status quo. The written and spoken word are the tools of my trade so I feel that the least I can do is use them to raise my voice in opposition. It is with that in mind that I wrote this post, because to not speak out would be dishonest on my part.
November 4 was a bittersweet night for me. I was happy that Barack Obama was elected the 44th President of the United States, but at the same time I was deeply saddened to learn that Proposition 8 was passed in California. Propositions banning same-sex marriage were put to vote in four states this year: Florida, Arizona, Arkansas, and California. To be honest, I expected the first three to pass by a wide margin. What I didn’t expect was the outcome in California, where Prop 8 passed 52% to 48%. I assumed that a state like California, with a high gay population, would maintain it’s open and progressive policy. But it did not. It’s one thing to deny a person or group their rights outright, it’s another to strip those rights from them after the fact. Read the rest of this entry »
California’s decision

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Apple: no to Proposition 8, yes to equality
All the more reason for me to like Apple:
Apple is publicly opposing Proposition 8 and making a donation of $100,000 to the No on 8 campaign. Apple was among the first California companies to offer equal rights and benefits to our employees’ same-sex partners, and we strongly believe that a person’s fundamental rights — including the right to marry — should not be affected by their sexual orientation. Apple views this as a civil rights issue, rather than just a political issue, and is therefore speaking out publicly against Proposition 8.
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